HOW TO medicate sick aquarium fish – Cure for ICH

HOW TO medicate sick aquarium fish – Cure for ICH


regardless of the backlash or what
people think of me I share every aspect of my hobby from fish dying to trials
and tribulations within it and this has encouraged many others to do so as well
but I think everything is a learning experience and it’s always humbling as
well today’s video isn’t going to be any different let’s start from the beginning
On February 18th I received a large shipment of fish in that shipment I’ve
received 18 Vita I know it’s pronounced vieja I like to say VJ leave me alone
oh but one or two arrived fine of course there were some torn fins maybe a little
of ammonia burn some of them were a little listless but over the coming few
days they settled nicely into the aquarium on January 23rd I aired that
video and shared with you guys for the first time that shipment of fish as you
can see from that order these guys were doing perfectly fine nothing was wrong
with them nothing apparent nothing external or anything indicating any sort
of sickness illness parasite or pathogen now you guys will also remember each
racking system they’re actually connected at the bottom at the sump but
I’m always advocating quarantine on isolating new fish for anywhere between
four and six weeks the benefits of the subs that I’m using is if you guys
remember me setting them up I was able to connect them with a PVC pipe if I cap
that PVC pipe off it creates two individual subs and I can run these
aquariums on separate pumps and they become individual systems and that’s
what I did in order to keep these systems separate during the first
thirteen days of keeping these fish I noticed nothing wrong with them
whatsoever and closely monitoring the systems however on that thirteenth day I
was barking by my wall room tank and I noticed they were covered with thick my
mind was boggled how did they get this it how did they get a problem like that
in the first place but no other tank had it these systems are just as separate as
being side by side so I had to rewatch the footage and what I noticed what I
was doing was every time I would release one of the fish
to their new aquariums I tossed the net down they’re essentially cross
contaminating the aquariums now when it comes to cross contamination and adding
new fish you never add the water from your quarantine aquarium to a fresh
aquarium you never add the water from the shipping bags to your fresh aquarium
simply because if the fish aren’t exhibiting external parasites maybe they
dropped off in the bag and you could be cross contaminating the water that way
cross contamination can be as easy as a net now I’m not sure if some of the
water dripped off the net and got in the aquarium or if I ended up using it in
this tank eventually completely forgetting what I was doing of course
when you were adding new fish you got so many things on the go lighting
audio-video you’re trying to capture so many shots educate and talk throughout
it things can get a little hectic but the thing was is that the WHA group had
pick and these guys never experienced it at all there was no signs of it on any
one of these fish and I spent almost an hour one day truly examining these guys
up-close trying to figure out if any of them actually had it I think that
perhaps one or two of the fish might have had some ik on them and come off
onto the net I got it into the tank below and it basically exploded within
the tank the thing I want to point out though is that I didn’t notice anything
until thirteen days later some people quarantine a fish for just a few days is
absolutely ridiculous it for example is temperature dependent we’re gonna get
dive into that in a little bit but it just goes to show that just because the
fish looks okay for the first few days or even a couple of weeks doesn’t mean
it doesn’t have anything and in my case it took two weeks for this parasite to
appear after the first the next day it got even worse the fish were just
absolutely covered in it just the wall Roux though none of the tetras actually
had any and I must admit and I have to be completely honest I haven’t had to
deal with it for about twelve years now so seeing it again for the first time in
over 12 years was certainly a shock to me but it’s a simple reminder that
anybody is susceptible to this regardless of your experience or who you
are in the hobby it can affect you so in today’s video I want to talk about how I
treated it what it really is and you know some of the
things that we can do to prevent it in the future so on the first day I noticed
the ick the second day February 2nd which was actually my birthday it got
even worse on the third day I don’t even know if there was a fish left in this
tank it looked like it was just balls of X swimming around but fortunately my
fish were healthy and were able to withstand such an infection however
because it was so severe my typical treatment for it when I only see a
couple of spots wasn’t going to work in this case but like I said I haven’t
experienced it for so many years that all the ick notification that I did have
was simply expired it wasn’t any good anymore typically it only lasts for a
couple of years the type that I use so I ordered some pic online the first sign I
seen it now I don’t care what brand of it medication I use I’m looking for two
ingredients malachite green in formalin and the one that I came up with on
Amazon was Cordon Rick ik+ I’ve never used it before but it has the
ingredients that I find are the most effective in treating severe cases of it
so I bought a bunch of bottles now we’re gonna get into how I treat it and what
the steps were well I guess we should first talk about the life cycle of it
and when we can actually kill it in order to treat it we first have to
understand it though because it cannot be killed at any given moment
luckily it does have a very simple life cycle and we can almost control it like
I said it is temperature dependent the warmer the water is the faster the life
cycle is going to be treatment can take days or depending on the temperature if
it’s much lower it could take weeks to treat however our temperatures of about
84 degrees Fahrenheit and up the life cycle of it is about four days it always
starts off by you seeing it all over the fish sometimes it’s just a few spots on
its body but a large it’s usually going to be on its fins this is the easiest
place for it to actually attach to this the softest tissue what it’s doing there
is feeding off of the fish while it’s feeding it’s creating a cyst
over top of it that makes it impossible to treat with medication so you guys
might know that you can’t treat it while it’s on the fish and sometimes your fish
might even be carrying it like I think some of the video work but it just
wasn’t appearing on the outside of the fish it do prefer to attack the gills
and the mouth the inside of the mouth of the fish first sometimes fish will even
give it away that they have pick by flashing or rubbing up against surfaces
and your clearing but that doesn’t always mean that they have it it could
be an irritant in the water but it is also an irritant and potentially causes
secondary infections but most importantly what happens with ick and
why it is so deadly is the fact that it’s feeding off the fish leaking in a
weakening weakening it over time plus since its attacking the gills it could
literally suffocate the fish which is the most common problem or the most
common cause of death with it while on the fish it’s called a tro font when it
falls off the fish that’s called a toment
all these names are gonna be pretty much useless you don’t need to remember it
but them but there’s just simply interesting now here’s the scary part
remember when I said it was literally feasting off the fish and we can only
see maybe 20-30 infection areas on the fish when it falls off it forms
something on your aquarium floor called a toe mite and this is where the ick is
actually multiplying itself into the hundreds or even thousands from there
this thing explodes releasing all of these they’re on switch become free
swimming and can attack the fish to summarize it attacks the fish it
eventually falls off multiplies at the base of your aquarium explodes and those
all of those baby ex explore the aquarium looking for new hosts your fish
only at this point can we actually kill the ick this is when it becomes most
effective I suppose you could kill it around here and here but this is when it
is most effective this is when we’re trying to kill it we have two benefits
here one we can kill it at this stage to the ick at this stage only has about 48
hours to find its new host before it dies anyways
this is why it gets worse and worse over time you might only notice a few
dots at first but once that falls off you think you’re in the clear it’s going
down to the bottom of your aquarium multiplying into the thousands exploding
in your aquarium essentially and attacking your fish coming back with a
vengeance but like I said we can effectively
control that life cycle that I just showed you with temperature of the water
the lower the temperature the slower that lifestyle cycle is gonna take the
higher the temperature we increase – the faster that’s going to go that said this
is what I did I first noticed the ink on February 1st on the 2nd I slowly started
to raise the temperature by the fifth I had the aquariums temperature up to 88
degrees Fahrenheit this is the day I received my medication however when you
are raising your temperature of this to this magnitude you got to worry about
two things one can the species of fish that you’re actually keeping withstand
those types of temperatures a lot of the times it’s simply no sometimes they can
depends again on the types of fish second thing is when water becomes more
warm it raloo it loses the ability to hold as much oxygen as cooler water so
we have to ensure that the aquarium maintains and not oxygen in it to
support life I do this by adding in an air stone now a lot of you guys will
know air stones don’t add oxygen to the aquarium the bubbles are simply rising
too fast to dissolve in the water column that doesn’t add bubbles at all the
bubbles do drag water from the top tube due to suction and circulate the
aquarium at a lot of times that’s why I have them in the tanks but when they
release when they reach the surface of the aquarium those air bubbles burst and
when they burst they create a ripple in the aquarium when you have hundreds or
even thousands of bubbles doing it at the same time you’re creating a lot of
waves at the top and what happens is you are creating a larger surface area at
the top of your aquarium which allows for greater oxygen exchange the release
of carbon dioxide then replaced with oxygen now at this point the fish are
actually void of all if the ick has already felt off I’m racing against time
at this point I know I have maybe two or three days to get the
medication in the aquarium and effectively treat it I start off though
by draining 50 percent of the water and siphoning that gravel what I’m looking
to do is to remove all of that egg that fell to the bottom of the aquarium and
is now multiplying into the hundreds or even thousands you’re never going to
remove it all because to the human eye you’re never going to see it after I’ve
done my 50% water change I filled the aquarium back up and I add the
appropriate amount of medication based on what the bottle tells me to do I
don’t add it and dump it all into one place though because some of this can
all at once if you dump it onto a fish for example and when you are putting
your hand in healthy fish will try to come up and think you’re going to feed
them so I like to dump a little bit in the sump and let the pump circulate it I
also like to dump a little bit in the aquarium above the water bubbles and
wherever I can get it to circulate the most so it doesn’t have a negative
impact on any one fish the very next day I perform the same thing I do a water
change once again I’m siphoning the gravel I’m doing about about a 25
percent water change at this point and then I reMed acade now for a severe
infection like this I was doing this in the morning and then doing it again at
night and I did it for two weeks as of today I’m still treating the aquarium
however the water temperature is slowly going back to what the temperature of
the room is and if you remember I heat the room not individual aquariums so in
order for me to heat this tank I did have to add a heater to the aquarium to
maintain higher temperatures than the rest of the area in order to cool it
back off some water changes and of course just removing the here is enough
all through this time I didn’t lose a single fish everybody’s healthy the the
tetras especially are tend to be most susceptible to medications like this
didn’t lose a single one all the water which tend to be one of the biggest
babies in the hobby such a big sensitive fish none of them lost none of them
they’re all still eating everything’s fine and of course the viga are doing
fantastic as well so clearly quarantining your fish is
absolutely beneficial you could use anything from a Rubbermaid tote to a
spare aquarium I’ve shown you guys how to do the do-it-yourself method in the
in the past using a sterile light container with a do-it-yourself sponge
filter it could be as simple as that quarantine should typically last
anywhere from four to six weeks although in the future I’m going to show you a
video on how I expedite that to about two or three weeks you see the problem
with this entire gallery is that it’s gone smoothly all except for a few bumps
here and there but my problem was with with importing so many hundreds and
hundreds of fish with no problems that was never faced with any issue other
than needing to quarantine and my quarantine process is to thank for the
health of these fish however I’m kind of glad this happened simply because I
don’t want all of this to look as simple as it is and me just constantly bringing
in fish and adding them and having so much success I don’t want to lead
anybody any false hope that you can do this as well of course I’m going to
experience problems I’m just happy it kind of happened so how can you truly
prevent it in the future well there’s nothing you can truly do if the fish is
actually carrying it however if you only notice a few spots on the fish a lot of
the times bumping up the temperature and adding salt to the aquarium is enough to
kill it and that’s typically my code too however I know so many newer hobbyists
add salts to their aquariums anyways I’ve never understood that all you’re
doing is building up an immunity to some of the parasites that can’t with sand
salt so when you do have an issue and you start increasing salts it does
nothing to them however in this situation the it was just too severe I
had to jump to medications and medications and chemicals there’s not
something I like to pour in my aquariums blindly so regardless of where you get
the fish how much experience you have if you’ve had all kinds of success with a
certain type of fish and have never experienced any issue
my suggestion is this one get your head out of your butt and quarantine your
fish properly anyways especially if your YouTube or promoting the way we’re
keeping fish and spreading the facts that you only need you know to
quarantine fish for three or four days because in your experience they didn’t
need any more wild caught fish are arguably one of the most infectious fish
in the Hobby because they are coming from the wild usually infected with
internal parasites as opposed to external internal parasites in bigger
fish taking tremendously longer to make show their head as opposed to smaller
fish of course the smaller fish do have smaller bodies and show their signs
much sooner than a larger one but I love the example here that I had these fish
for two weeks before any signs of anything actually happened which then
cements my claims and saying you need to quarantine your fish for four to six
weeks minimum and you know I’ll admit having new fish and needing to
quarantine them for four to six weeks sucks you want to take them and add them
to your new aquariums I’ve only ever done that if they were the only fish
going into that aquarium meaning that they’re not going to have the
opportunity to infect any already existing fish within the aquarium with
that sound I guess I’ll close this video off with stating the simple fact that
quarantine is one step too many – becoming a successful Aquarius and
actually enjoying your fish instead of continuously losing them and stressing
over them oh I also want to mention that the big fish deal is in a few weeks
that’s in Maryland I’m being I’m gonna be there again for the third year in a
row I’m going to be doing a talk there I’m gonna leave a link in the
description below also the Colorado event which is in like less than two
weeks away still has tickets available I’ll leave a link to that in the
description as well I hope to see many of you guys at both events you know what
the scariest part to this entire situation is that this one case of pick
could’ve potentially wiped out this entire gallery of fish if I didn’t
practice proper quarantine procedures and keeping all of my things separate of
course I slipped up here and made a mistake and I paid for it
luckily I was able to treat it but I just kind of want to point out that
something that simple could have literally wiped out hundreds of fish
worth thousands and thousands of dollars based on me not thinking you should do
quarantine as often as you should or you know getting lazy or rushing something
just to make a video quarantine is the utmost important to me I don’t care if
you guys lose your minds over the fact that you want to see the new fish that I
just got it it’s in quarantine and it’s staying there until it’s completely
healthy and I’m sure that’s gone through the four to six weeks YouTube views
everything else can wait

50 thoughts on “HOW TO medicate sick aquarium fish – Cure for ICH

  1. I have a green terror who has white fungus looking spots on his pectoral and tail fins. I originally noted it when I had him in another tank about a year ago. I added a lasalle Cichlid which I had previously quarantined. I added the lasalle and after a week of being in the tank I noticed kind of a haze on the sides of the fish. Then, the green terror had white spots. I started treating the whole tank with different cures. I wasn’t sure what I had. Eventually I just tried general cure and it went away. However, it split the tail fin and ate away a piece of a pectoral fin. I recently set a 125 and put the green terror in there and now the white fungus (looking) came back. I also noticed some white stringy poop. It has been years since I had ich in a tank. Could this be ich? Or do you have any other ideas? The fish is not exhibiting any strange behavior.

  2. My fish have been flashing/scraping against rocks/plants for about a month now. None of them have any white spots so i figured it must be gill flukes. However I’ve dozed with prazi pro about 5 different times and they’re still flashing. My water parameters are good and I really have no idea what else it can be. If it was ick shouldn’t they have at least 1 white spot? And wouldn’t they be dead by now? And if it’s flukes shouldn’t the prazi have cured them? Any ideas what it could be? Anyone?

  3. It should be stressed that Ich is always within any body of water and is dormant. Factors such as wounds, bad water quality, and stress can cause fish to be susceptible to ich. Constant water changes are key, raising the temperature to 87 F ( Raise by 1-2 degrees every 12 hours) will kill ich at it’s early stages. If severe, malachite green or methylene blue, as well as API ich cure or API salt, may be used. This is all on my experience, please correct me if I am wrong. Cheers.

  4. I just spent like 6 weeks and nearly 100 bucks thinking that breeding tubercles was ich not knowing any better.. they should really put this info in more ich videos..

  5. I have a question last night I noticed some of my fish had white spot, and during the night one by one kept dying I lost a complete tank in one bloody night. I treated brought up the temperature everything. I did by a second hand ornament of eBay but did clean could this be the reason ? Hi from London uk

  6. Thanks Joey. I know I am late to the party, but I have a much better picture of ICH and how to treat it. I really appreciate your work and the fact you are a fellow Canadian. May the ice storms leave you alone. If you are around Antigonish look for a Food Truck called Back East Seafood, talk to Damian, lunch is on me.

  7. I have so much for your honestly you put preventing people making their own fish safe above the possibility of reviving criticism ✊

    After all EVERYONE makes mistakes and thanks to you genuinely caring about fish you will save others from making the same mistakes and saving fishes lives ! x

  8. How much salt should be added and how much should I bump the temp for a 75 gallon tank with roughly 40 tiger barbs in it? Just noticed white spots on a few of them today but not many maybe 4 or 5. Please help if you can!

  9. I have just one fish who had what appears to be ich. Have been cleaning my daughter's 10 gallon tank for a month now and treating it daily. However one fish seems to be the only one who has it all the others are okay. So I'm seriously confused. I did take a video of the fish and would love for it to be viewed. Please let me know what your thoughts are. Thanks

  10. Thanks a lot. Is malachite green safe for the fish? Is it also safe to touch? I read some where it is carcinogenic!

  11. Me too. Completely healthy tank. Years. Then introduce new fish. Threw the source water out etc etc. very sick looking fish

  12. I noticed my angels going to the surface for air following a very very small amount of methylene blue ich treatment. (Only 7 drops for a 55 gallon tank with tetras so half the dose is recommended). The recommended bottle dose would be 1 drop to 2 gallons tetra tank. So 20 drops at least. I immediately did a water change. I have a double wheel filter no carbon along with a sponge filter to polish the water, 1 year 3 month old established tank. What do u recommend? I believe it’s possible the angels were hunting for the bubbles at the surface but my corydoras who never go to surface were swimming up there too so I knew something was wrong.

  13. Best fish tank video I've seen so far as someone whose dealing with ich and a begginer, i need a you tube fish guy lol, so im subscribing thanks

  14. Hi 👋, I’m from Australia Queensland, I was given by my husband Gold fish and White Cloud fish for Mother’s Day 🥰👏🏽 I was soooooo happy 😊 three weeks later ( winter now , temperatures as low as -4 to 5 C = 24.8F to 41F they are outside in a 5 gal glass tank till large pond is ready) I’m just so happy to know what the heck Ich is and my large pond wasn’t ready otherwise I would’ve never seen this problem. Ich are on the Gold fish fins only that I can see, thanks to your video, I’m now able to get medical 🏥 help for them. Thank you for your knowledge and I hope I’m successful.

  15. i have some fungal issues with my koi and my catfish has this HUGE looking zit thing on it so im just treating them all in the same tank since the whole tank is sick. im just cycling through the treatments currently. one of my fish recovered we will see if the rest will

  16. I keep my fish in slightly higher temperature and have no issues with ich at all !!
    If the temperature is above 26 c. chances if ich are low !

  17. I got a fish tank to help keep me occupied and to enjoy the fish I use to walk the path of the dark arts and spent my time paying for my sins and my fish tank has helped me so much but I'm on my second outbreak of ich Its so frustrating I'm sure I took all precautions then realised I'd cross contaminated my net using it in water from the new fish and my tank …I'm close to throwing in the towel but I've started treatment and hopefully I got it early enough I hope so ..I enjoy it so much but I've lost 3 fish at the beginning from buying from a bad fish store and infecting my whole tank I cured that and saved the rest of my fish but now again 7 months later has deflated me

  18. I have had my Oscar for almost a month and all of the sudden…. Ich. Battling it now. My Oscar seems to be in better spirits in only 24 hours of treatment. Thanks for the advice. I learned to assume Ich is always present.

  19. You need to come up with something easy for us beginners can do it our self okey. Dexter world channel examples is a good DIY.

  20. Would Easylife Filter medium & Easylife Voogle work on ICH, Brought some new fish a few days back saw white spot on them the next day waited for another day read more and knew it was ICH so went back to the store and they recommended EASYLIFE to booster immune system and would get rid of ICH …. Would it work ? Just dosed my first dosage as per the instructions

  21. I love all your videos talk as much as you like , if you know anything about fin and tail rot would love a video on that. I never have any luck with that illness, treating as instructed and the affected fish always have died. have not had often but the fish don't survive if they get.

  22. if setting up a new tank with all the fish from the same pet store shouild i still quarantine? even though its new

  23. Hey, I have a barebottom tank, and I see one spot on my convict, could I just wait till it falls off take it out and be all good?

  24. You said on February 18 you received package for fish but this video was uploaded on February 15 explain that time traveler

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